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President Obama has been pushing hard for a deal with Iran – and today, he got it.
The U.S. and six other nations signed a nuclear anti-proliferation pact with Iran. The deal will require Iran to cut its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by 98% for the next 15 years. It will also shrink the number of centrifuges it uses to enrich uranium by two-thirds, and allow for monitoring of the remainder.
In exchange, the U.S. and other foreign countries will lift sanctions on Iran’s banking, oil, and other sectors. Arms sales to Iran will gradually be phased out, and sanctions can supposedly be “snapped back” into place if Iran fails to live up to its obligations.
But even before the ink was dry, Obama’s foreign and domestic critics were lashing out at the deal. Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu dubbed it a “mistake of historic proportions.” Congress will now review the agreement for the next two months, and legislators could vote it down. That would lead to a presidential veto … and a likely subsequent push by opposition lawmakers to override that veto.
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Obama and his supporters claim this will open a new chapter in our relationship with former Mideast enemies. They liken the détente to the recent deal to re-establish formal relations with Cuba.
But long-term, democratic allies like Israel – as well as Mideast Sunni nations and ostensible allies like the much more autocratic Saudi Arabia — are aghast. Frankly, I can’t blame them. I don’t understand why the administration has been so eager to embrace Iran.
This is a country with a long-term (and recent) history of trying to kill American civilians and soldiers. It has worked to counter our national interests in the region for decades.
I also have no doubt whatsoever that Iran will be able to skirt the rules and continue to enhance its nuclear program if its leaders choose to. After all, the country’s coffers will gradually fill over time as its economy is unshackled from sanctions. Lastly, this is completely unlike the situation in Cuba — no matter what kind of spin the administration and its allies try to put out there.
Bottom line: I think this is a dumb deal, and our recent policy of rapprochement with Iran is just another in a long line of confused, misguided Middle East efforts over the past several years.
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But that’s my opinion. What’s yours? Is Obama on the right track here, or dangerously off course? What impact will Iran’s emergence from sanctions have on markets, if any? Oil didn’t react much to the pact – does that mean the market is correctly realizing that it will take years for Iran to ramp production back up substantially? Let me know at the website.
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The online chorus had a lot to say about Greece, and the latest deal offered by the country’s European creditors.
Reader Rob said: “Since the goal of the elite money masters is to pretty much rule Europe (the world?) through loans or to own it through confiscation, it would make perfect sense to take the deal, right? I mean, if I owed someone $10,000 and I couldn’t make my payments, it makes perfect sense for me to borrow another $10,000 and tell my creditor that they can just own my children down the road.
“Us so-called free Americans have already done that, so why not spread the joy! Go central banking! You guys are great.”
Reader Howard said: “We just celebrated a time in France when more than 200 years ago, the citizens said ‘Enough … we have had enough of tyranny’ and revolted. Now we find that despite a people’s vote in Greece, their government has decided to sell the household silver in order to stay in a system that gives them a free lunch, but sells their country down the river.
“What has happened in Greece? A country that needs to stand up with some backbone and help the poor and needy? Yes. But so many others who believe they can sit on their arse in the cart while fewer people are left to pull it. Is this the way of the future?”
Reader H.C.B. added: “The Greeks voted not to have more ECB and IMF austerity, yet the Greek government has agreed to ECB and German terms of higher taxes and lower pensions. Reportedly, capital controls will last six more months at least. Greece has not proposed any structural reforms so they cannot possibly payoff their existing loans.
“More bailout money and loans just increase Greece’s national debt and do nothing to solve the country’s insolvency problem. It’s just putting off the inevitable: A default.”
Finally, Reader Todd S. said: “I am very concerned about the precedent-setting influence the EU is exerting over Greek sovereignty and democracy. Whether it be for the good or ill of Greece, its electorate’s voice in its own government should not be overturned by an outside entity like the EU/IMF.
“I’ve encountered one report today that the new proposal would even give the IMF veto power over selected legislation that may be passed in Greece in the future. The potential that this could have for democracy in Greece and other nations has me unsettled.”
Many great points were made here, and I appreciate you sharing them. Greece was definitely behind the eight ball as a result of its excessive debt load, and that allowed its creditors to basically dictate terms.
That has calmed market nerves for now. But since the country’s underlying debt problems haven’t been solved, this tragedy will likely have even more acts down the road. Gee, I can hardly wait.
Any other thoughts on Greece, Europe, or the democracy angle of this story? Then weigh in at the Money and Markets website when you can.
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It’s earnings season again … and today, it was the megabanks’ turn to chime in on how things are going. JPMorgan Chase (JPM) said it earned $6.29 billion, or $1.54 a share, in the quarter – up from $5.98 billion, or $1.46 a share, in the year-earlier period.
That beat estimates for $1.45 a share, but largely because of cost cuts. Revenue slumped more than 3%, with weakness in bond trading, mortgage servicing, and asset management hurting results.
Results at Wells Fargo & Co. (WFC) weren’t much to write home about either, with earnings slipping to $5.36 billion from $5.42 billion. On a per-share basis, the $1.03 in profit Wells recorded only matched estimates.
China is trying to muscle into the U.S. chipmaking market, with state-owned Tsinghua Unigroup Ltd. offering $23 billion to buy Idaho-based Micron Technology (MU). The price-share price Tsinghua offered was a 19% premium to where MU was previously trading. But any deal could face resistance by U.S. lawmakers, given concerns over intellectual property and security if Micron passes into Chinese hands.
Retail sales dropped 0.3% in June, rather than rising by an equal amount as economists expected. May’s gain was also downwardly revised, and the year-over-year rate of change in core sales was the weakest in 16 months.
So what do you think? Is the U.S. consumer in good or bad shape? Should a Chinese firm be allowed to take over a company like Micron? Any big banks you like after seeing these numbers? Let me know over at the website.
Until next time,
Mike LarsonÂ
Mike Larson graduated from Boston University with a B.S. degree in Journalism and a B.A. degree in English in 1998, and went to work for Bankrate.com. There, he learned the mortgage and interest rates markets inside and out. Mike then joined Weiss Research in 2001. He is the editor of Safe Money Report. He is often quoted by the Washington Post, Reuters, Dow Jones Newswires, Orlando Sentinel, Palm Beach Post and Sun-Sentinel, and he has appeared on CNN, Bloomberg Television and CNBC.
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As dumb as the day is long.
Yes
What is the U.S. of A. doing over there at all. Why aren’t we solving our own debt problems. We need a real economy that unites us going forward. Where’s the solutions to incentives for workers to work and employers to hire in meaningful jobs. Forget about Dems and GOP’s issues. We are better than this.
Perhaps you should re-title this site the “GOP Money and Markets”….. Where was all the criticism of the Cheney/bush administration when it was taking us into an unjust war based on phony Intelligence? Where was this site when Cheney/bush were taking us into the Crash of 2007 and it’s follow on Depression? What is wrong with giving negotiations and treaties a chance, before we go to war, aye? I’m a veteran and I think war should be the LAST straw. Any veterans in your organisation? Geeez!
If you are actually a veteran you sure didn’t learn any respect for freedom. What exactly were you fighting for (supposedly)?
What the hell are you talking about? Incidentally, most of the other veterans I served with were the poorest of kids in this country and they were Democrats…. The wealthy Republican kids were running around “supporting the war” while hiding out in college on deferments their parents paid for. They were the likes of Mitts, Rove, Cheney and most of the Republican candidates now in their 60’s!… :(
Right f***ing on! Very few elite children in the ranks of our troops. But, hey, they are the deciders, right? Please, give me a break.
Do ghetto kids really give care about Iran, Sunnis, Shiites, or if they all blow themselves to hell? What they care about is enough to eat and being able to maybe get an education and help their families survive.
Because someone failed to complain in the past, that means we can’t complain now when we see absolute insanity? Are you kidding me?
If this agreement gets overturned we might as well call ourself the United States of Israel
What do our “allies” do? They finance terrorists like Al Quaida, treat women like hell, they promote a very violent colonialist policy in Palestine as well as apartheid. With friends like that, and all the oil we can wish for instate, who needs enemies? Hence, Obama’s strategy makes perfect sense. As to Iran killing Americans, people have some memory. The former dictator, supported and put in place by the CIA (after democratic elections), was so much hated that they could throw him out. You can say what you want about the ayatollahs, but they are still in place. They must have some legitimacy.
The way the Ayatollahs treat their citizens, who are disarmed, means they’re legitimate just because their still in place? There is no logic at all in that argument.
What about the looking at a broader picture. Confrontation has lead to greater confrontation. Have you considered the plight of the average person living there in a mass prison for seven years. Has remedial measures been taken, or the land grab goes on relentlessly. Would you like to spend a few days in that place
So we are to celebrate about the smart ways Pr. Obama got what he wanted. He just once again let our US prisoners be sitting in Iran’s jails. Shame on our Government!
Not one word to correct the travesties which families and friends experience for their loved ones, they are just being ignored!
We know by now how terrible Iran thinks and acts against the USA and the Middle East and our country has now chosen Iran against our former allies to whom we look as traitors.
Ya, but you see, the Iranians are just about to develop a nuclear weapon and none of the other countries in the Middle East have them (except Israel, who still denies them). So now the Iranians know how much the sanctions have hurt them… Better to get an agreement that go to war just yet…..
idiot. balderdash….
idiot. balderdash….
If Iran is so terrible, what about Saudi Arabia? Wealthy Saudis, if not the government, also, are prime supporters of their fellow Sunnis in ISIS.
The Saudi government also beheads or stones to death anyone who decides to convert to another religion, especially Christianity.
This is definitely a bad deal. The sanctions were working and their economy in shambles. We just threw a lifeline to a long time enemy.
say what? balderdash…..
Will someone please tell me why we are giving them $150 billion? THOSE ARE MY TAX DOLLARS. WHAT WAS OBAMA AND KERRY THINKING?
We were behind the overthrow of the government in Iran, and we put the Shah Reza Pahlavi in power in 1953. Don’t think the Iranians forgot that. We are not always the good guys. Sometimes we are the bad guys.
say what? balderdash…..
Thank you for (hopefully) waking up our freedom loving war lovers! I agree that Israel needs to exist, but is that Palestinian child any less worthy of a prosperous life than an Israeli? Let’s give peace a chance, war should be our last resort!!
Iran Deal: What difference does this deal make on any level except to advance Obama’s legacy? No matter what the terms of the agreement, Iran’s leaders are pretty much going to do whatever they choose, except now the number one terror sponsor in the world will have the money to pay for their mischief. A $150 billion injection into their $400 billion economy is the equivalent of injecting $8 trillion into ours. Would you really be all that surprised if we found out they already had the bomb anyway? The real effect of this deal will be to make it clear to the other Arab nations that they too will now need their own atomic weapons. A Middle East arms race is something that should make us all feel a lot safer. NOT! Jim
Really, number one terror sponsor? Have you looked at the videos coming out of Gaza? Do you know what real terror is? It’s not being able to walk down the street without being harassed, manhandled, kicked, punched, groped, cursed, and pushed at! It’s having your children taken at gunpoint for NO REASON! It’s not knowing whether your spouse will return home safe from work or not. That’s terror. All lives are precious, not just Americans’, not just Israelis’. And US, by the way, is the biggest state sponsoring this terror.
Where’s the guy that was saying balderdash to everything? Saying that the U.S. is the biggest state sponsor of terror is much beyond balderdash…….
U.S. is the biggest state sponsor of terror? Provide the details, SH. Or did you forget your meds today?
There is quite a lengthy catalogue of US sponsored atrocities over the last 100 years. From nuking Japanese cities (McArthur himself said the bomb was not responsible for Japan’s inevitable surrender) to overthrowing multiple democratically elected governments from Guatemala to Indonesia and many other countries in between. All to ensure that U.S. corporations didn’t lose mining rights or markets to sell McD’s and Coca-Cola. Refer to 2 time CMO winner Smedley Butlers opinion of the U.S. military and the war machine. Or Ike’s farewell address to the American people.
Right on Johnny!
And that exonerates Iran’s outrageous behavior? I said nothing about the US and Israel being guilt free. The barbarians in Gaza would rather buy new rockets than food for their children. Give us a break! Jim
Jim – you sound like a real genius, I don’t support Obama on everything, but it sure sounds like you would rather he not exist!
I certainly do not hold Obama in very high esteem. Bush or the Clintons either. I’m an equal opportunity critic of most US politicians. Show me one thats worth a darn and I’ll back off. Jim
A horrible one-sided “deal”. Obama and Kerry make Chamberlain look like Churchill. I’m sure this “deal” will work as well as Clinton’s “deal” with North Korea.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE ONLY REASON IRAN AGREED IS TO HELP THE ECONOMY SO THE PEOPLE DO NOT REVOLT.
IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP IRAN AND ITS SHIA FRIENDS CONTROL ONE SIDE OF THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA,THEY NOW SURROUND SAUDI ARABIA ,AND ISRAEL.
WHY WOULD THEY AGREE TO ANYTHING EXCEPT TO QUIET THE PEOPLE.
MARK MY WORDS NOT ONLY WILL THEY NOT COMPLY NEXT THEY WILL TAKE OVER SAUDI ARABIA .SUNNIS .
YOUR ARTICLE WAS EXCELLENT
President Obama’s statement, that this deal with Iran, “..Makes us safer and more secure.” reminds me of Neville Chamberlain’s infamous last words when waving his agreement with Adolph Hitler, “Peace in our Time.”
Obama and his team are soon to find out that when you lie down with scorpions, you are going to be bitten.
And if you like your plan you can keep your plan. if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. And don’t forget that $2500/year savings for each family.
Mr. Larson
It you will review your history classes particularly the historical era subsequent to
the Balfour Agreement you will find that a number of sources have revealed how
this present administration is and has been imperialistically snooping in the middle
east (funding the very groups who have help destabilize Syria, Libya, and Iraq!)
The shame should be upon the heads of a brainwashed american public that
continues to elect popularity contest winning, pathlogical liars as leaders. It takes
two to tango!
edt
This deal redefines the amateurish stupidity of our present Administration
Alienating our best ally in the Mideast, Israel, and throwing
Israel under the bus and threatening its very existence
And what did we get for conceding everything to our greatest enemy?
Nothing! Does anyone really believe Iran will stop developing a bomb and enriching
Uranium? Only a complete idiot would begin to believe the Iranians
Obama has nothing but failure after failure in foreign relations but this idiotic deal with
A country that burns Anerican flags in the streets and
And wants to destroy us and everyone else that is perceived as an Infidel not to mention they finance every terrorist Islamic
Nut faction on earth is beyond normal stupidity
Obamas deal has jeopardized the entire world
Our only hope is that Israel saves our asses by taking out Irans nuke facilities
I am ashamed of our Government for crawling into bed with the most violent and non repentant enemy we have ever had
I am a U.S. Army Nsm era Vet and consider myself a Patriot
Excuse me.. This deal makes me want to puke
Don’t worry, nothing is happening to Israel. At least not anything that’s being done by any outsiders. They are piling on crimes against humanity, brutally mascaraing an entire nation for land that they have stolen from them. Imagine being confined to a bathroom in your house by a person you gave asylum to. And every time you try to sneak out of bathroom, you have to be searched and pass a check post. While you are trying to make your way around your very own house, the same asylee assaults you, because he’s afraid you MIGHT do something to harm him. That’s a very simplistic analogy for the open-air prison Palestinians are living in.
Land they stole? The Jews have been in Israel since the times of Abraham, i.e….2000 BC. Even though the Persians, the Syrians, the Romans, the Muslims and the Palestinians have tried to kill them, make them slaves and othewise run them off, they keep coming back. Note to file…..you cannot ‘steal’ property property that already belongs to you.
In the Old Testament, God promised the land of Israel to all the descendants of Abraham. Many forget that he had 2 sons, of which one was Israelite and the other was Palestinian.
We could eliminate every Jew on this planet and the Palestinians would still be bitching. Every major conflict on the planet involves Muslims that can’t get along with their neighbors or even each other. As long as their are two Muslims there will be eternal conflict. Jim
Eight hundred years of inbreeding has taken its toll. You are great example if why Westerners are not allowed to marry their cousins.
All I’m going to say is…look up, “Thomas Jefferson vs The Muslim World,” and you’ll have your answer about all of this.
Amen jj – most people haven’t a clue what the hell that is !
I did just that and it is very enlightening. Thanks for the reco. Jim
People waiting for the 2016 election to “fix” things should know that the country won’t last that long.
Oh, you must belong to the party that has brought both of the Stock Market Crashes and Depressions of the past 100 years, aye? Forgive us if we have little confidence in your buddies or your idology…….
You do know that BOTH of the recoveries from the GOP Crashes happened under Democratic Administrations and Democratic Majority Congress don’t you? What Limphog didn’t tell you that?
Obama knows exactly what he is doing. He is not a stupid man. He is diabolical, hates our constitution, and is a Muslim till the end. I’m totally worried for this countries future and the future of Israel and any country close to them. We better pray that our congress votes it down and fights this incompetent presidents veto(that he says he will do)
Obama a Muslim? Not a very good one. He will be egging on the Shiites and Sunnis to war with one another. With Israel in the middle, maybe.
It came off of his GOP Comment Card… :(
Obama is either stupid or a traitor , and Is clearly a muslim. Kerry is a clueless stooge, and was a traitor before congress after Vietnam. Congress must override the coming veto after congress votes this idiocy down
The American people have been placed in greater peril with this “deal.” The President continues to sell us out for supposed political gain. This is change we didn’t ask for or need and will cause further damage to our country’s security.
The Iran deal is great for U.S. arms makers. The Saudis are ready to unleash over $3,65 billion for helicopters, missiles and radar, etc., with the Gulf States tossing in another billion and a half or so for more arms. Israel will add a bunch to that, also. Of course, the Ayatollah still has to sign off on the deal, as well as Congress. So it still might never happen, even with the arms companies lobbying like crazy.
With this deal the UN sanctions are lifted and Iran will be flush with cash to fund our terrorists. You can kiss Israel and the USA goodbye. We can no longer call our country the USA. It is now the USI “The United States of Islam”. This is the CHANGE we were promised we would have in the 2006 Elections.
We already are USI, The United States of Israel:)
The US used to play superwoman in the Middle east but considering the threat of nuclear, it is clear how the US has this priority, besides oil is climbing a slippery slope back anyroad. Prices are weakly recovering, the US will start thinking of it´s own oil more than on exporting or importing any of it and switch over to more renewables within the decade. This new situation may be painfull at first but as Carbontracker amongst others are pointing out money is gushing out of oil, and big investing takes time so time is not on oil´s side anymore, it´s share of outlays in the world is inevitably incrementally falling…
They should never have even begun discussions unless Iran gave up Past. Saeed & other Americans in jail unjustly and was willing to recognize Israel’s right to exist. Under those conditions, I would have negotiated, period. Then I would have told them when we find the next instance of your backing of terrorism, I am going to turn into ‘Harry Truman’ & you will get what’s coming….
Please do some research on what Isreal does to Palestinians to establish “its right to exist”. My right to exist doesn’t mean I maul you every second of every day, make you miserable and make your life a living hell. Iran, on the other hand, has only made statements, with no real action to back them up. But we live in a time of sound bites, with media that is owned by Zionists.
Israel gave the “Palestinians” Gaza, infrastructure and all, and the gazans elected a terrorist government and destroyed the infrastructure, then attacked Israel with rockets.
The best gauge for measuring the worlds insanity level is the amount of Anti-Semitism.
The Arabs control 99 per cent of the Middle East yet obsess over the one per cent they don’t control. It’s irrational. The Arabs have accumulated hundreds of billions in oil wealth and how have they used it? To build roads, schools, and hospitals or buy rockets and AK-47s and pay $20,000 bounties to families who strap bombs to their children to blow up old ladies on busses and kids in pizza parlors. They send thousands of randomly aimed missiles into Israeli civilian neighborhoods, dig tunnels till their fingers bleed, and wonder why Israeli soldiers shake them down. The Palestinians are where they are now because no other Arab state will have anything to do with them. They are nomads who have been troublemakers wherever they have traveled. They have had ample opportunities to obtain a decent existence for themselves and squandered them all with their irrational hatred of the Jews.
Your accusations need a ton of supporting evidence. If Canada were lobbing mortars across our borders, on a DAILY basis, we would have bombed them back into the Stone Age on day 2! AND, RIGHTLY SO!
This president has been a foreign affairs disaster. Now he is trying to turn our back on Israel and our other ally, Saudi Arabia, in favor of a dedicated US enemy. Hopefully, Congress will head this one off at the pass.
Aside from economic implications of this deal, it boggles the mind to think that we are concluding nuclear negotiations with a country who wants “Death to America”… I think our leaders are delusional.
Any US Predident that stars that the greatest threat to U.S. Security is global warming and considers this Iran deal his signature foreign relations coup needs a lobotomy ..,or has already had one!
He can’t even utter the words Islamic Terrorism!
Remember….insanity is doing the same stupid thing over and over and expecting a different outcome!
Every single Obama policy from health care to domestic economy snd foreign policy has been a dismal failure… Hence the insanity of this Iranian nightmare deal
That is a direct threat to all of us
The nuttinyahoo murdering slimbag (isrieal) getting by with murder for much to long now.
Let Iran take em out. (USS Liberty 1967)
Jack Lovett
lotta’ people would like us to forget about that……….
The Iran Nuke Deal is a farce for everyone but Iran. We have all been sold down the river by the Progressives one more time. No one knows how close to a nuke Iran is but if they were willing to sign this, then it most certainly is 1)good for them and 2)they’re probably a lot closer than anyone thinks and 3)they just need to buy a little more time. The Progressive mindset was already revealed back in the 2008 campaign and that is, they believe all they need to do is sit down with rogues like Iran and they will be able to talk them into being decent world citizens. So, Progressives now think they have 10-15 years to pull off that miracle. I’m not sure how they think they and their families will be able to duck the actual “fallout” from nuclear material turned over to jihadists that bring it across our border and use it on us. Although, news some months back indicate Obama bought a new family home in Hawaii which is away from the mainland so I guess he’s covered. This will prove to be a disaster for us, our kids, and grand kids.
Think Mideast is going nuclear and some of then won’t hesitate to shoot off nukes
A commenter said that Greece’s democracy would be hurt with the governments deal with the IMF and the EU. About two years ago Greece elected a Communist government. So much for “democracy”.
On the Iran deal. When have we had anything turn out the way we intended in the Middle East? “Never”!!!!! My son-in-law is Jordanian and his father was head of the Jordanian secret service and he was head of the security division that protected the King and his family for seven years. He said that the mistake the U.S. and Western countries make, is that many countries in the Middle East are long time enemies. Saudi Arabia is a long time enemy of Iran and Iran with Iraq and on and on. When we make a deal with Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and several other countries get mad. Why do you think the U.S. has not been able to put together a coalition of Middle Eastern countries to fight ISIS. As long as we are in the fight our enemies in the Middle East want join the coalition. When will we learn how to deal with these people?
Neville Chamberlain resurrected. So Iran will put off getting the bomb for a few years in return for reinvigorating their economy so they can support more terrorism and sponsor attacks on our allies and probably us as well. Obama is definitely showing his Muslim roots in trusting someone who wants to kill us. Madness personified. I think the destruction of Israel is definitely on Obama’s agenda as Iran will now pour billions into Hamas and Hezbollah. They didn’t actually admit it yet but i’ll bet that the removal of the arms embargo by the UN is part of the deal. Dr. Strangelove is alive and living in D.C.
Reply to Mr Lovett ;
You sir are a moron
I would gladly buy you a one way ticket to
Iran
Ha-ha. Give him a choice of Iran or Israel…. which he says he hates. My bet is he would choose a flight to Tel Aviv when push came to shove!!
I second that, Sixgun. I’ll chip in on the ticket for this moron.
It does not matter what the Obama Administration does !!! Israel will not put up with it Come July 2016 Israel will make sure Iran will not be able to do as they say. Look Out Iran forget Obama Administration it has come to a END !! YES END the rest of his days will mean nothing his administration is over NOW.. . start . Looking to the skies Iran here comes Israel to put a stop to your threats. Also The Fed my oh my raising rates will happen on “Triple Eve of what people call Halloween”. October 28th . Only 25 basis points but its a start. Real Estate will be the best ever this year in 2015. The support for Israel is most important . How does a US President now supports Iran a out right enemy of Israel. Has America learned a listen by electing this guy. By the way the next president will ease the debt . Also he (the next president) will be a HE not a SHE. Or even a she/ he or a he/she..God forbid. To make Iran comply make more sanctions not free them up now they can prosper and plan bigger shame on the lack of wisdom. The administration wants praise for this ??. Disgrace to our country and our people and our allies. Just go in and take it out but it want be America who does it. Thats okay Israel will cause a big bang in July of next year 2016.. Watch for the fireworks out of Iran . Israel will provide the show and they will go alone..
US Intel has stated that Iran is 2 to 3 months away from getting a nuclear bomb on their own. According to nuclear scientists, the restrictions in this deal push that break-out timeframe out to a year or more. I believe that if Iran gets a nuclear bomb, war may be unavoidable, possibly including the use of nuclear weapons.
Without this deal, the likelihood of a nuclear war in the middle east is very high. WIth this deal, the threat of nuclear war is dramatically reduced for at least the next 10 to 15 years. Why is that a bad outcome?
Finally an intelligent comment on this site!… thank you Mike G.. :)
Because your second from last sentence is totally incorrect. Obama has done nothing but start a nuclear arms race in that region. The Pakis will be selling nukes to all of their Sunni friends asap…..this will not be good.
Mike H., do you really believe this? It’s not what the deal purports to say, it’s the execution of it, and Iran will cheat and give us a bad surprise. And why believe Obama and Kerry? They are daily liars. And are you happy with 10 or 15 years to live if all goes well? How naïve. Best start shopping for burkas for your women.
Like anyone can actually trust Iran?
They would tell that idiot Kerry anything he wants to hear
To have the embargoes lifted especially on arms
And economy
Your reply was intelligent but you are relying on the Iranians to keep their word!
How patently absurd!
About as absurd as emperor Obama keeping his word!
Interesting he refused to structure this idiocy as a treaty
Which requires a 2/3 vote in Congress
It is a treaty but he called it a trade agreement then wrote
An Executive Irder giving him authority to make trade agreements which requires
A lesser vote of. Congress and he can and will veto
It…Pray that Cingress canister the votes to override his veto!
I don’t know who is less trustwirthy
Our enemies like Iran ior our President. Whom is actually a
An enemy as well… Or at the least a traitor
Did he really teach Constitutional Lsw?
I don’t believe it since my 10 year old granddaughter
Knows more about our Cinstitution than Ibsma does quite
Obviously!
Iran? President Obama can certainly claim “Peace in our Times.” Didn’t work out so well last time.
Mike, You asked why Obama would sell out to Iran. Peel back the onion and see what is inside. Obama’s father was a Shiite Muslim which means the son is born a Shiite Muslim FOR LIFE. His administration is full of Shiites. His right hand is Valerie Jarrett is a Shiite Muslim. Why do all of the Sunni Muslim nations distrust Obama? They KNOW he is a Shiite Muslim. Provide me one other plausible reason why Obama would sell out our historical allies like Isreal, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, etc if what I said is not true?
Steve K., a good insight. Why does the media miss this? Obama is anti-Christian, anti-Jew, and anti-white. He is also anti-American.
How well has the treaty we signed with North Korea worked out! Need I say more!!!!
Finally, an intelligent comment on this site! Thank you Mike H…. :)
Don’t forget we gave Iran 50 BILLION in the “deal” as well! Hey – it’s not Kerry’s money.
It will be interesting to see the details of the deal, but nobody in their right mind should be hopeful. This is the administration that neglected to negotiate a status of forces agreement in Iraq, backed the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, called ISIS the JV, and ran guns to Syrian rebels and ISIS through Benghazi and Turkey. Between sheer incompetence and open hostility toward Israel and Christians, their policies are disaster for the US and our allies. This administration will likely be gone from office when Iran and the middle East explodes in a gulf war, and possibly a worldwide war. I believe Netanyahu when he said this agreement will give Iran the bomb under the fake “legitimacy” of a signed agreement. A bad agreement is much, much worse than no agreement.
No one in this corrupt administration knows what he’s doing, either in foreign or domestic affairs; it’s been a succession of disasters for 7 long years. This “agreement” with Iran will come back to bite the US, and probably Israel. We are governed by fools.
Mike it will make no difference, The “Good ‘ole’ USofA” is like a flmed-out Rocket
that’s burning up on re-entry, The USA as we’ve known it is no more…The final
end is only a very short distance down the road… Would you like to know how it
ends? Read the 24th Chap, of Leviticus and the 26th Chap of Deuteronomy in
your own Bible… Don’t have to take my word for it…
Oh well, IRAN, the bad guys , historically fighting, destroying and exterminating their neighbors and lately not following Obama’s wishes… oops,,, OOPS that can only be ISRAEL.
People forget the SHAH OF IRAN the brutal dictator supported by USA.
IRAN is a peaceful country and should have nukes, that will bring peace and stability to the middle east
hey you
Iran is a terrorist state governed by benighted, murderous, old clerics.
ask yourself….have they brought peace and stability so far?………
Mike, Correction: make that Chap 26 Leviticus and Chap. 28 Deuteronomy !!!
Politics being what it is, the real deal is not what it seems like on the surface.
Iran probably has enough material stashed away to make a bomb or two (if not a bomb or two already made) and the missiles to deliver it anywhere in the region. the only thing we know is that they haven’t tested it. So this is partly about closing the barn door after the horses have already gotten out which everyone in the know including Netanyanhu keeps on acting like this is the real deal.
The real deal is finding a way to release a $100 billion or so of Iran’s own money which was frozen due to sanctions for them to fund and fight the war against ISIS which we (the US and allies) have no appetite in putting boots on the ground there to do that dirty work.
ISIS is within striking distance of both Baghdad and Damascus. Iran’s proxy army in Lebanon, Hezbollah, has been pushing back ISIS in Syria and keeping them at bay but apparently is losing ground as it has lost a lot of its’ fighters as well as used up its’ armaments. In Iraq, Iran is training troops to launch a counter-insurgency to take back Falluja and Mosul, but as is evident, Iraqi troops are no match for an ISIS onslaught.
On both fronts, if Iran’s efforts and support does not succeed in pushing back ISIS, it will be our worst nightmare as both capitals will fall and ISIS will control the central key land area of the Middle East. That would necessitate another invasion and war making the last one look like a skirmish.
And the deal does provide for inspections to curtail proliferation of Iran’s nuclear bomb program.
Considering the facts on the ground there, this deal is better than no deal.
Richard, wrong and naïve. The inspection regime in the agreement is a joke.
We can handle ISIS, with leadership other than the feckless, spineless fools we have. Not so easy to handle an Iran with nuclear tipped missiles capable of hitting all the capitals of Europe, and ,yes, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.
This deal is much worse than no deal, and the people who negotiated North Korea have done it again. Fools, weaklings, and probably traitors.
It’s pretty obvious that you’re speaking as a member of the Israeli lobby and are probably a card holding member of AIPAC. You may not care, but I don’t want to pay for another war in the Middle East just because Netanyahu and his ilk own most of the US government. Netanyahu GUARANTEED the US that if they overthrew Hussein there would be peace in Iraq and the Middle East. How did that promise work out for you?
This is a good example of how diplomacy can work better than your wars. A better result would be to end nuclear power and weaponry in the whole world. We could start with the US and Israel.
John, how about starting with N Korea, Russia, China, Pakistan and Iran first. Did you know the weakest kid in the yard gets kicked around? You sound like a kickee; most of us are not.
Larson will report you to Israeli police now.
You knew that offering a political opinion on your financial website would bring out the heated opinionizing, but you just could not help yourself. Go ahead and alienate half of your customers, you can afford it.
within about 10 years, the name “Obama” will become the new replacement term for
“jackass” or “moron,’ as the world will be facing a powerful and nasty regime threatening the Middle East and eventually the whole world.
Like , I suspect, the rest of the correspondents, I do not know what the outcome of the Iran deal will be. In the mideast, knowing your enemies and your friends, and which is which, on any given day, is about impossible.
If, in practice, we are prepared to inspect diligently, and reapply stiff sanctions [as i understand the treaty to authorize] it could have a chance to succeed. Problem is: will allies goi along with sanction reapplication when the time comes?
Much is certain to change in 10 years.
Have to hope the results are ok. i.e better than the alternative.
As usual Ayatollah Obama gave the farm away or threw the baby out with the bath water. The leaders in Iran have publicly stated for the last several weeks that they have every intention of skirting the deal. And it doesn’t solve the problem of another nation getting nuclear toys, especially one that sponsors terrorism. Like the problems in the EU and everywhere else, no problems were solved, they were just pushed down the road to become worse in the years to come.. The problems are not dealt with head on and worked out, they are pushed down the road like there is no tomorrow, and at the rate things are going, someday there won’t be tomorrow.
Ted; Do you think the weapons we have today will be here in 15 yrs. Probably not. Presently, we have a surveillance system that can us tell when they flush a toilet. The weapons of the 18th century are not here any longer, as the atomic bomb of last century will be the weapon of the past. Outer space will be where the next battle will be engaged
We will be spectators under the sky and have little to do with it’s out come. With the next weapons of the present and future, frying something on the ground from 250 miles in outer space will be possible. Just to get their attention, the Iranian Ayatollah should be “toasted.”
Thor’s Hammer?
CLINTON INKED A DEAL WITH THE NORTH KOREANS IN THE MID 90’S–NO NORTH KOREAN NUKES IN OUR TIME. WE DID NOT PAY ATTENTION AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED. I’M SURE THE IRANIANS USED NORTH KOREA AS A MODEL FOR THEIR NEGOTIATIONS AND WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THEIR LEAD. OUR ONLY HOPE IS THE IRANIAN YOUTH MAY SOMEDAY FINALLY HAVE ENOUGH OF THEIR ELDER ZEALOTS AND MANDATE REGIME CHANGE.
when iran can say death to america for many years including recently
this deal will give them what they need to complete the job
It is truly unbelievable that Obama could get Iran to give up so much of its sovereignty.
Can you imagine any other country allowing the US to control its nuclear capabilities?
Good on you Obama if this is true.
I think your assessment of the Iran deal is spot on. A failure for our allies and real threat to us.
I wonder who is fooling who?? It is actually Iran that got the better deal on most of their terms, and not Obama. When will we learn that freedom goes hand in hand with responsibility? History is full of lessons that taught us that freedom without responsibility and accountability will always end in a mess! Iraq is a good example! So is Afghanistan and Libya! This world has just become a more dangerous place to live in! Time will soon enough validate this statement!
Obama continues his Forrest Gump run as President, stupid is as stupid does. He is as gullible as Jimmy Carter if he believes Iran will walk the line. How long Oh Lord must we watch this clown throw pies in the faces of the American people. What a farce this president has been.
Doing a deal with a terrorist state how nice /sarcasm. Any other president that has done what Obama has done during the course of his terms would have been impeached by now or even earlier. Nixon and Watergate have nothing on what this so called leader of once was a great nation has done.
Please remove me from all future e-mail. Thank you
Mr. Larson:
I believe you have been reading too many
press releases by Israel and U.S. portraying
The Persian Country as evil. Iran has no
military presence except on their soil. U.S.
has over a 100 military bases completely
surrounding Iran. Israel as well as the U.S.
can nuke them any time they wish. Could
we please quit being the policeman and
invader of the whole world and try to solve
our own problems on our own soil?
Mr Larson is doing a service to his Jewish community. Nothing personal ;)
I have real problems reading from so many smart people how terrible the Europeans are …..come on , they are your allies , they protect their investment just as every other person would do …….why all of a sudden this sympathy jargon ….the reason nobody trusts the Greeks any more is because they cheat , they cooked the books to get into EU in 2001 …what followed is a crooked fairy tale which no sane country would accept forever!!
Any person with integrity would expect when he takes out a loan …there comes a time when he must start paying it back …..the founder of ” Democracy ” , the cheaters of the world …no country has ever behaved like this and now they try to pin every thing on Germany ……this is laughable and shows clearly how ignorant these people are !
Of course , whenever there is something to gripe about we are the kings , we cry out like babies and hope someone will listen to our wailing chants ……get a grip on your senses and stand up to be counted for a change and do not bore me to death with your childish comments. The Greeks got what they deserved and if I had he power to act on their lies & whining …they wouldn’t get another cent from me!!
Some of the European Bigwigs are not smart by negotiating for months to get their money back …..and telling the world how Europe would go under if we lose the Greeks in the EU. They never played honest & they never should have been admitted to the EU !!!!
Even with new bailout , they will squander it away and in 4-6 months they will pull the plug and stiff the EU for 330 Billion Euro’s.
What a way to sleep with a partner !!!
When you owe the bank $1000.00, the bank owns you.
When you owe the Bank Trillions, you own the bank.
Who really believes that Greece will ever pay back the loans?
They will just default and have the money they were loaned..
Who believes that Greece will be taken over by the rest of EU? I don’t. They have just had a free lunch. Who is going to put them in jail?
Mike, I have been a subscriber for a long time…..I am interested in Weiss Research for information regarding investing and the process of successfully making money. You are asking people to tell you what they think; this is more like Weiss Facebook….we do not need people to give their views….we need your research and wisdom, not a bunch of opinions from the far left and the far right…if this continues I will be looking elsewhere. I really don’t care what your opinion is on this deal with Iran either……let’s keep our politics to ourselves….I am sure that we can all agree on one thing – we all (regardless of political ideology) want to make wise investments and increase our wealth.
You’re no fun!
Being a Jewish investment group, today’s email reflect your political views and are biased in favor of Jews. I think Israel is simply jealous that U.S will be friends with Mideast. Period.
I hope this message gets published. :)
Wow
That was really an ignorant reply!
One thing about anti Semites;
They don’t have a clue as to the idiocy they expound
You may win this debate as providing the
Most absurdly ridiculous statement yet!
Anti Semite card is now old. Please use something new.
How can you possibly think Iran will ever be friends with the Great Satan? The oldest trick in the Muslim playbook is to befriend an enemy for the purpose of betraying them. It is naive people like you that will get us all killed.
Glen,
I fully agree. They are turning the newsletters into their political agenda and they want people to endorse that. I want information on ‘ Money and Markets’ NOT Jews and Muslims.
Where and when and how does peace begin? Trust but verify. Iran has sponsored state terrorism. So, has the U.S.A. Israel is worried. They have much to worry about. Far more than Iran alone. Isis may succeed in creating the caliphate they dream about. But I can almost bet you that Isis will have major internal factions that want to be splinter groups. There will never be peace in the Middle East. Never.
The question is whether there can ever be a modicum of sanity. Sad to say, Iran is probably one of the most stable nations in the area. We must deal with Iran whether we like them or hate them. They are not more of a monolithic regime than China was back in the days before Nixon created a new era of trade.
Iran is no worse than Japan or Germany or China or Russia. Should the U.S. simply not deal with any nation that does not hold our values as sacred? Really?
Respect is not the same as love. What Obama is trying to establish is mutual respect between nations. It may or may or may not succeed.
However, what is gained by enmity between our nations? What could be gained by mutual respect and a degree of trust?
Iran is an ancient Persian nation that will never accept less than its due of respect. They are a proud nation. They have a right to be proud. More so than many nations.
I believe that what Obama has done is begin a long process that should one day lead to much better relations within the region and between our nations, Iran and the U.S.
But if it does not, a lot o people will suffer and die. But, at least, the attempt at peace has been made. It may look entirely foolish right now. Think back a little to the SALT talks with the Soviets. A lot of folks though Kennedy was a fool and disarming America’s nuclear arsenal was tantamount to suicide. It was a leap of faith….that somehow worked.
Too much was at stake not to try.
Fortunately, those talks worked.
Maybe these talks will work. But if they don’t, the U.S. still have many other options but economic and military, including nuclear. If Iran decides to try to play nasty and use the pause in hostilities as an opportunity to build up it nuclear arsenal and attack its neighbors, I sincerely think they will not like the resulting reactions of others.
This agreement that has been crafted is fraught with danger, but it is also possible to build a new a much better Middle East. A lot depends on Iran, of course.
Do they want to simply hate and destroy and expand their power base? Or do they see the possibilities of peace and prosperity staring them in the face?
Many people don’t seem to accept than Iran is a Sovereign nation, like the United States. It has every right to do its own thing, just as we do. Iran is like a midget in a weightlifting contest. It hasn’t the power needed to compete. How would we like it if the UN imposed sanctions on us because we wanted to do something that some other nations have done. If Iran gets nukes, would it really use them? Pakistan and India are probably closer to nuclear war than Iran and Israel, even if Iran had the bomb.
Hapuna; “There will never be peace in the Middle East. Never.” As it been for the past 4000 years. Why are we in the Middle East? It has oil. But honesty, equality, and all the good things that most people of the world want for themselves and their children are not available for even the most ??religious?? of their kind. When they run out of oil, and it surely will happen, what will they have to offer the rest of the world? Peace? Not likely.
Regarding the Iran “deal” and all its ramifications, it is a good time to reflect on Neville Chamberlain’s “Peace for our time” speech upon return from the Munich Agreement waving a piece of paper with the names of both Herr Hitler and Noddy Neville in 1938.
Here’s a link to original footage of that catastrophic occasion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO725Hbzfls
Iran is celebrating because they got everything they wanted (as they still chant ‘death to America’). I trust Iran even less than I trust Obama.
Sheryl; When 25 million anti-Americans Iranians, scream “Death of America”, they haven’t seen the 330 million Americans they are screaming at get mad at them, have they?. Will they invade the US? With what? They have no ships, no air force, and if all were to come here they would be covered by 13 Americans to one Iranian. Get you head out of the pot you’ve been told we need to protect us from them and see how great this country really is.
A single nuclear tipped missile exploded twenty miles over the US would unleash an electromagnetic pulse that would shut down the entire power grid and subject us to undreamed of hardship. No invasion would be necessary.
Both ISIS and al Qaida are SUNNI organizations, like Saudi Arabia, which gives them much of their funding. Iran is actively trying to help Iraq to fight ISIS, since the Iraqi government is largely Shiite, like Iran. They are at least on our side in this. ‘Not saying Iran is any more friendly to U.S. than any other Muslim nation, but they are maybe a bit more on our side than some of the Middle East nations we stupidly call allies. People might want to consider that, before blindly supporting the Sunnis, like those in Saudi Arabia, who allow no Christian churches or synagogues, and behead or stone their own people if they try to convert. I read that Iran is more tolerant, having about 600 churches with 300,000 to 370,000 members, and a long list of active synagogues.
Iran’s people, like America’s are outstanding. It’s their crazy leaders that are the problem.
Iran’s leaders are politicians, Jim. So are ours.
Fully agree.
Chuck, would it be presumptuous of me to conclude that the modern politician is by by definition at sociopath ? Jim
Ignoring common misattributions relating to the concept, it seems common sense that any form of free public governance can only exist until those that govern are corrupted and those that vote, in any significant plurality, vote for the corruptible. In spite of all the wisdom of the Framers of the US Constitution, checks, balances and warnings, no form of government seems immune from ultimate collapse or tyranny, the former leading to the latter as a matter of course.
It seems to me, the terms of the bondage matter less than the path and time it takes to get there.
Obama is a greater enemy of the United States of America then King George, Hitler and Stalin combined. Why would anyone be surprised that he wants this deal. It weakens America and Obama is anti-American.
Study the Iranian culture just a little, please. It is perfectly acceptable for them to lie, cheat or steal to advance their faith. Do you actually think that they will honor any agreement that they make? Obama is a fool and so are the misguided people who voted for him and support him.
As for me, I’m a veteran and clearly see what is happening in and to the USA. I left the country long ago. I am an Expatriate and a Ex-Patriot.
Good luck USA,
Tom
Hey Tom I heard a lady on a long time ago say the first hundred years the black man was held down.the second hundred years he can’t do no wrong. She was right.obam a can destroy this country and get away with it
Not just the Iranian culture, Tom. All cultures, and all religions hold that truth to be self evident. Look at American history, for example. Lie, cheat, steal and kill, too.
Tom; I’m glad you left the country. We don’t need guyslike you who stand off in a foreign country and tell us what we are doing ???wrong??? Don’t come back. If you don’t work to fix it, what good are you? RW
Good riddance.
Beware an Israeli false flag
After seven years most rank and file conservatives have concluded Obama is a point man whose elections have been financed by a strong coalition of unknown sponsors to destroy (change) our country. Congress’s inability to grasp Obama’s real agenda by continuing to show respect for the office despite his use of executive powers to destroy us. Where is the anger and outrage? Where are Congress’s enforcement actions to make this “President†tow the line? Why haven’t impeachment proceedings begun? Congress does have a right to review, deliberate and approve or reject a policy if they conclude it imposes great danger to our country but a Presidential veto looms.
In contrast, Greece’s Parliament must approve the bail-out and bail-in terms of the agreement with the ECB and IMF tomorrow before it goes into effect.
Our forefather’s Constitution has wise provisions to protect us from this but failure to use them is an option they apparently didn’t expect would happen.
As Netanyahu concluded today, this deal is a sellout and defeat of the U.S. and EU after months of enforcing sanctions which have really started to work, hence Iran’s whining for relief. It is unthinkable to capitulate after years of sacrifice by western European of much needed trade in oil, natural gas, etc.
I believe we are destined to eventually have a shooting war as we have again embolden the bad guys.
Israel knows the depth of their peril and will not wait until they are attacked and lose their first strike ability. I predict they will strike before year’s end. The currency wars have and may continue to be bloodless, but I believe the failure of this nuclear treaty will be viewed in history as the tipping point of the next major war all according to a diabolic master plan conceived by our off shore enemies.
The Iranians are not bad people its there govt. the ones I met here in the united states were always cool. However, they have a different religion then us Americans so there will be differences. remember the hostage stand off of the 1970’s well at least they didn’t murder th whole lot or cut there heads off we got them all back. The bold truth is they hate the jews because the jews have the power and the money and if you don’t believe that then u are living in the dark.. I bet the jews are pissed today they voted for Obama though the great savior of the world…
I have the same experience. Some Iranians are a cool bunch.
Our comments about the future aren’t worth a squat in the woods. Too often the things many have been quoted as what will occur in the future have been totally incorrect. Some have been malicious, damaging and even dangerous. We can pull the plug on those people in a week if they do one thing “out of the ordinary.” Talk is much better than bombs. Bombs don’t make friends, and sometimes we may not want that country as a friend, but try as we have is better than hand wringing. RW
Bombs CAN’T make friends. Remember, it always takes a human to push the button.
Our unwritten foreign policy should be to help our enemies fight each other and keep our troops out of the crossfire.
Yes, I believe President Obama is on the right track. I am amazed at the individuals who see the worse in a potential opportunity for good. The alternative has failure built in from the beginning inviting conflict and violence. The use of force and “arms” is the prelude in another lose/lose prolonged battle of killing and destruction. Memories are short.
I personally don’t care what you think or anyone on your page to be honest. This is supposed to be about financial matters so maybe you should look at those implications for investments, etc. instead of your clearly right wing agenda. It makes you look foolish to say the least and who cares what you think. Do you have a crystal ball. It was not so long ago, your Republican leader Ronald Reagan sold them arms or do we forget that part of history. Stop with all your bashing and stick to the facts. No ONE CARES and only time will tell but I prefer peace over war any day and we are NOT the only NATION involved in this agreement last I checked and what is your expertise in foreign affairs?
Open debate is the basis for a free society. If you are content with the party line you are in trouble.
There’s a part of me cheering, but Grace, in all fairness, these events do affect investing. However, I do get tired of fear mongering every time someone reaches out to others, and the majority of comments here supporting peace efforts with this treaty should be a wake up to conservative bloggers like Mike. It’s tough to write a blog often and not bring in the world around you, especially when dealing with money. But to conservative hatemongers, the “I hate Obama at any cost” commentators here, I’m with the person who supported peace. Most Presidents do the best they can in most situations, and as Harry Truman’s daughter once informed us, those Presidents have a lot more information coming at them about situations that none of us ever hear about. Maybe some of us need to think about that before shooting off our mouth.
“Peace at any price,” essentially means surrender. It is what happens when “No ONE CARES”, Grace. I agree with Jim’s response.
By the way, the Iran agreement will be highly profitable for all the U.S. and European arms manufacturers, as the Saudis and Gulf States arm up against Iran. And when sanctions are lifted, Iran will be looking to modernize their forces also. Profit, profit!
Grace – BANG ON!!
I agree with Grace that your all-too-frequent right wing editorializing is misplaced in what is purported to be a financial newsletter. Please stick to business. I’m sure you’ll be welcome as guests on Fox “News.”
Politics always influences business – for good or for bad. “Obummer” may have done U.S. arms makers a big favor, as the Mideast nations arm up for the inevitable battle.
Keith – I can’t stop laughing! good one.
Larson, if we get rid of people like you America will have much more peace with other nations and the world will be a better place. Do ‘you guys’ ever get tired ?
No doubt you take your orders from Uncle Benjamin of Israel – it is ok for Uncle Benjamin to have nuclear capability but of course not for anyone else. Let’s have Israel free of nuclear capability and then I will go along with you.
I think the deal is brilliant becasue it will help the Irian economy and strengthen the moderates in Iran. Iran will change if the people of Iran see a better life ahead of them than the one presented by the leaders and the extreemists. If we are worreied about Isreal … don’t … they have an estimated 100 nukes and Iran is not tht stupid and if the radicals loose control … war will be a distant memory. Remember … the people of Iran threw out the Shaw and they can do the same to the Mullas. So encourage them to have a prosporus standard of living and let the people change the tide instead of the War Mongers in the U.S.A. or Isreal.
Peter
Ron Paul is the only US politician that I have ever heard say anything reasonable about Iran & its uranium enrichment. A speech given in Congress in 2006 is just as valid today as it was then. A few of the main points in his speech were:
The US overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953 in order to steal their oil.
Iran is completely within its rights, under the treaties it has signed, to enrich uranium.
The US gave Iran its 1st nuclear reactor.
Iran has not invaded another country in over 100 yrs.
To read the speech do a search for “Ron Paul Iran the next Neocon Target.”
Excellent post!
Israel is the only country crying out loud like a baby. This is not the 80’s or the 90’s.
America has paid a BIG price for having allies like you. We need to think of our own people first and this great land. Israel knows very well that Iran will NEVER ever attack them. I KNOW they Jews are just feeling insecure to see Iranians shaking hands with us. Grow up please.
Can I remind the writer that Obama is the president of UNITED STATES and NOT Israel.
Greece has shown that it is no longer a country but an administrative zone of the EU.
Peter said,,I think the deal is brilliant becasue it will help the Irian economy and strengthen the moderates in Iran. Iran will change if the people of Iran see a better life ahead of them than the one presented by the leaders and the extreemists.
Islam has such a hold on the Muslim mind they are not about to change. Belief in their God trumps everything else. Israel has had the bomb for a long, long time and has not used it. If Iran gets their hands on one they would sew in a camels belly just to get it delivered.,
we say amen….they chant “death to america”….
Amazing the number of mind readers out there. They all know what Iran will do if they get the Nuke (if they really want it). Iran has a large populace of moderates (unlike Saudi Arabia and others). Iran has an advanced, educated populace who want good relations with the world, this peace agreement will give them a chance to win over the radicals and extremists. “Give Peace A Chance.”
Peter
Totally Agree Peter!
Excellent post!
Totally agree
Well spoken, Mike.
You correctly saw the Iran deal for what it is, another Obama blunder of historic proportions.
Sincerely in Christ,
George Theiss
USMC Vietnam Veteran
north korea all over again…
This is not a dumb deal. The US public (Martin Weiss included) have been duped by the pro Israel lobby. Iran has not attacked another country in 300 years. Yes, they support Hezbollah and Hamas and for this they have been accused of “supporting terrorism.” Remember this: one man’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter. Investigative reporter Gareth Porter’s book “Iran: A Manufactured Crisis: the Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare” is possibly the most important expose of political corruption and US government malfeasance to appear in the past ten years. Porter’s meticulously documented account tells the tale of how the US government lied again and again to make a fabricated from full cloth case, which he describes as a “false narrative,” against Iran. While the tale was being spun, the US and Israeli governments both knew that the entire process was completely bogus and that Iran had no nuclear weapons program but they continued to engage in the deception in spite of the fact that it created a crisis where none exist.
I rarely am jolted into comments like this, but this is incredulous!!! As an Australian observing from afar, I fret now at the eventual outcome for world peace.
The blatant weakening of America.
I am aghast, at Obama,s wrecking ball. I have to assume there is intelligence in the man, but when you combine that with such naivety; within so many of his other failed policies including his border policy and his wide ranging foreign feeble ineptitude, one has to wonder whether he was intentionally ,”Planted”, in the white house by America’s enemies!!!!
I think there’s a lot of confusion about the deal with Iran. First of all, people wonder why we’re making a deal when Iran is still anti-Israel and has an ideology that we don’t like. The key is that the nuclear issue is #1. We don’t have to like them, but we need to stop nuclear proliferation more than anything. We also made nuclear deals with the Soviet Union. We needed to do so, even if we didn’t agree with that country’s ideology either. Even President Reagan negotiated with them, and not just with Gorbachev, but before then. Make no mistake, if a Republican had made the same deal with Iran, we wouldn’t be hearing all of this stuff about how bad a deal it is. It’s mainly because a Democrat made the deal that people are against it.
Another confusion is that the deal is often misreported, in that they say that with the deal, Iran can get a bomb in a year, instead of in two months. People think, How is that better? But what isn’t stated is that it means that if they abrogated the agreement, then it would take them a year. If they stick with the agreement, though, then no nuclear weapons. Is there a risk? Sure, but without the agreement, they get a bomb in two months.
Let’s be clear about what the risk is: The risk is that a Republican gets elected president, and antagonizes Iran, so they break the agreement and build a bomb. That would be just like what happened with North Korea, when the Clinton administration got an agreement to stop them from getting a plutonium bomb. Then, because South Korea and Japan were seeking better relations with North Korea, the Bush administration preempted that by accusing North Korea of trying to seek a uranium bomb (which would take many years, if they could even do it). So Bush broke the agreement, and North Korea right away took its plutonium back and made a bomb from it.
So there is a risk, but it would be our fault if we broke our end of the agreement and it turned out that way. We like to think that all these other countries are just irrationally evil, but actually how we act towards them makes a difference. None of the problems we’ve had with Iran would have happened if our government didn’t nix their democratic government in the 1950s, just to prevent them from having a greater share of profits from their own oil.
Folks, if you really want to know what is happening in the world, don’t rely on the US gov’t and the mainstream media. Check out informationclearinghouse dot info, globalresearchdotca, consortiumnewsdotcom, counterpunchdotorg, Rtdotcom, AlJazeeradotcom PressTVdotcom. RT has live news on its website and they expose the lies of the US gov’t and Wall St. It is excellent!
I agree about relying on the puppet news organizations in this country. By all means listen to other sources of information, but remember that they are likely puppets to someone or something or other.
why do stock market gurus have such strong opinions on the politics of the world? Who studied political science, or considered all the effects that such a deal with Iran would have on the world.? Just because we study stock charts, read all the business news and try to stay informed about sector rotation and alternative investments, it doesn’t mean that we really know what’s going on politically.
Why don’t we stay in the arena that we specialize in, and give opinions where something we say has some educated basis.
Mike you know that ALL PROPHECIES will become a reality and NO ONE can change what GOD JEHOVAH said it will happen . . . . no matter what
Did anyone ever hear a WORD directly from God/ Yahweh/ Allah? It’s always some political hack who claims to have gotten the direct WORD, which always seems to agree with the Party line.
On the subject of Democracy:
My father once commented that it did not seem to matter which party was elected to rule the country (Canada) because there did not seem to be any changes in the policies after being elected.
I have been thinking about that for many years, and it seems to be true. It appears that we have true democracy only on election day, when we are allowed to choose the “next dictator.”
I strongly support Obama’s deal with Iran. Yes, there are risks, but they are uncertain, which makes the deal preferable to the alternative, which is almost certainly a major war with Iran and deepening hostility from Shiite populations, if not war with them, too. If we go to war, we also virtually guarantee Iran’s completing work on nuclear weapons. They may be hurting badly under our current sanctions, but they are a much larger nation than Iraq, have a well organized military and a well-educated population, have a lot of technological sophistication, and hence are a nontrivial opponent. If we were unable to assert ourselves in an enduring way in Viet Nam and Iraq, imagine what our chances would be with Iran! Our gripe is with the Iranian government. At this time, I understand, the US still has a fair amount of support from the Iranian people. Subjecting them to a war would wipe out the possibility of reconciliation for generations.
I’ve read most of your comments and felt sad that until now many of you still have not realized what Obama has done to your country, and to the world.
He’s a Muslim at heart, an egotistic and narcissistic man who is a well talker and cares for himself more than for his country. Remember the missile talk with Russia? He was heard to have told the Russian President that he would be in better position to respond to their demands once he was re-elected. This was the act of selling your country for your political gains . Obama had the least experience in politics and never governed a state, let alone the USA – the most powerful country on earth. My colleage, a Russian, told me that the world wanted the Americans to elect Obama so they could laugh at the Americans. If I recall correctly, Iranians were the ones who said Obama was an amateurish politician.
After he was elected, North Korean sank a South Korean warship. Russia annexed Ossetia from Georgia, and now Crimea. Nothing like that had ever happened under any other US administration. Remember your country’s glorious days? During the Cuban Missile crisis, Kennedy’s strength and assertiveness was the reason the Russians quietly packed and left Cuba in humiliation.
Obama doesn’t like Jews and Benjamin Netanyahu, and that’s the reason he’s allowed Iran to continue its nuclear program. Currently, conflicts in the Middle East have been contained; and as such, there has been peace even though it’s fragile, but peace is peace. Israel has possessed nuclear weapons for a long time now but they will not use it unless attacked by Iran. Obama is smug about this Iran deal but the fact is that he’s instigated more conflicts, turmoil, and destruction in this region in the future. Once Iran possesses nuclear weapons, there will be nuclear wars in the Middle East, and the region might be wiped out from the map.
On another subject, the US economy is going to implode sooner or later, and I’ve wondered if Obama tries to steer the Americans’ attention away from this economic mess with this Iran deal.
My stomach churned when Obama was elected the first time. I felt depressed the second time even though the USA is not my country. Seven years with $13 trillion debt. Has your life improved in the past seven years? Then why Obama?
Obama didn’t GET his Iran deal – we bought it, and there’s no telling how much we had to borrow to pay for it.
I have a feeling Valerie Jarrett had something to do with this, since she has strong ties to the Iranian royal family. Some thinks that she has as much to do with running the government as Obama. With advisers like her and Rev Al, nothing good has come out of this administration.
We would be insane to agree with anything Obummer wants us to do. The Iran deal he told Kerry to arrange is deranged. He is dismantling America as fast as he can before he is out of office.
Finally someone speaking the true way it is
Obama hates America
He proves It daily
He hates Wall St but he sure doesn’t mind the billions George Sorios has made for him!
Our Nation is led by a “Confederacy of Dunces!”
(With thanks to John Kennedy O’Toole)
Obama doesn’t HATE America. He USES America for his own purposes, just like every politician.
Re Greece, they took by far the lesser problem(solution) (while making a big show of saving face) versus the economic severity they would have had otherwise. They had a choice and good reasons for the one they made — less pain and inconvenience.
Re North Korea, their traditional pattern is to build up a big war threat, and then get grossly paid off to tone it down for awhile — easier than begging or stealing outside the country, and a more macho way of making things happen to someone’s advantage.
Re Iran, with no deal Iran would eventually be able to nuke their way into showing some kind of force. With USA now having the capability of being an oil exporter and energy independent, allows more room to move in directions that make for a better governance of the world. Sunnis and Shias are going at it like Catholics and Protestants 400 years ago more or less — believe what I believe or I will kill or persecute you, because only I am right (to proliferate across the planet). Add in a tad bit of political and economic competition, winner take all, and you are in some part of the human race to the future. Through rose colored glasses, everybody else is stupid and incompetent, no close inspection required. Kinda nice not to have global confrontations for awhile, though the game can change. For a country by country tally on living conditions, read the Economist.
In all cases, let the actors chat it up …
Re. Greece talks; Germany has disgraced itself again.
If you dont make an effort to achieve peace, it isnt going to just happen on its own. I congratulate the President for getting something done! This has included efforts from many world powers. The Republicans only whine and oppose everything without ever offering anything at all constructive, and only want to drop bombs. Since the end of WW2 just dropping bombs has gotten us nowhere, and has gotten us into a lot of messes. We have also created many of the monsters out there by our poor choices in the past.
I believe there are risks in this agreement sure, but the risk of backing out from the agreement on our end are far worse. Many dictators have fallen and countries have re-entered the normal world order when the standards of living are bettered and their isolation is softened. We already have some common interests with Iran fighting ISIS. Iran has a new government which seems to be softer. We have to give it a try. If the US Congress rejects this agreement it will only show the world we have nothing to offer except more bombs, and the downward spiral will continue.
Impossible to make peace with Islamic Terrorists
The only peace will come when Isis, Al Qaeda and the rest have been eliminated
and a few more
If you listened carefully to Obama’s speech yesterday, it really made sense. You get the treaty before the problem has time to escalate. I’ve never been a rip roaring fan of John Kerry, but he did do a fine job in a tough situation. I don’t know what everyone else in the region is fussing about. They get the nuclear power without the nuclear warheads, and carrots in front of the donkey to behave better. The last time we had a treaty of this magnitude, the Berlin Wall fell not too long afterward. I doubt that the group of people we are dealing with here are the same that took over in the early days of the Iran Hostage situation, and even if they are, I imagine they have seen the light about how to play nice with others. I do agree with the comment above, though, that Obama really needs to turn his attention now to fiscal responsibility at home.
Obama may have helped this country in one way. U.S. arms makers will profit highly, and help the employment figures as the Mideast nations arm up for the wars that will likely result. $3.65 billion for missiles, helicopters and radar in Saudi Arabia. Over $2.5 billion for weaponry in the Gulf States. And Iran will be buying when sanctions are lifted. Then there is Israel, but we will likely pay most of their bill.
Its not what people say, its what they do that matters. What actions have we seen from Iran that tells us they can be trusted? The deal is worth nothing more than propaganda points. If Iran wants a bomb, now, it can get one, especially given access to new revenue sources, not to mention the new found lack of respect we’ve developed over the last few years. And to think that this administrations charge on foreign policy was to make us more respected around the world. We’ve managed to placate our enemies and piss off our allies, what a plan…!! History will determine the logic.
Iran is just a problem among many facing America.
Currently, Russia and China have a far bigger potential to cause more serious problems for the US and it’s allies. If the Mideast countries cannot settle their ethnic, tribal, political, and religious issues, we certainly cannot.
I’m for do what you can with diplomacy, and then decide if and what further action is necessary. As a nation, the US has spent far more of it’s resources trying (rather unsuccessfully) to solve the world’s problems. It’s past time to start concentrating on the serious domestic problems and inadequate infrastructure. Perhaps the EU should become more involved in the Mideast, since the EU nations are more directly impacted by what is happening than we should be. Mideast Oil production is not as serious and immediate problem for the US as it is for the EU.
Few wish to acknowledge the obvious…. Obama, IMO, is intentionally doing all he can to harm America. Reflect back on his decisions… Obamacare, immigration, refusal to confront ISIS, now the deal with Iran. Personally, I believe him to be a closet Islamic terrorist. And as POTUS, he can do maximum damage to the country “from within”.
I hear commentators say, “it’s’ his ideology”, or “he doesn’t get it”. Well, he gets it. His ideology is to destroy America if he can! And unfortunately, he’s made great strides. :(
Why, pray tell, should not Israel and the Saudis confront ISIS, why does it have to be the US? Is it Obama or is it you who wishes to destroy America with wars that do not concern America? And the Affordable Care Act is a great success actually.
Agreed.
agreed to Ron H. Not CJ.
You are wrong about Iran. It is actually Mr Netanyahu who is a mistake of historic proportions with the corrupt Saudi regime coming a close second by a hairsbreadth. These 2 mistakes of historic proportions (with nothing coming close by miles) will now try and do all they can to assassinate Mr Obama as they succeeded with Mr Yitzhak Rabin. You are misguided in your irrational views on this one. I suggest that you reflect deeply and change them as Mr Obama is on the spot on this one and all the others, like peace with Cuba, pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Since his inauguration, Obama’s actions, policies, and proposals have been anti-Israel, anti-American and definitely against the will of the people, which makes it all the more perplexing how he was re-elected.
He had/has no experience for the job, and his continued disregard for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, his foreign policy is simple proof he is in fact a muslim bent on the utter destruction of our nation. The only thing more perplexing is why the Congress refuses to stand up to him.
We will be fortunate to survive this next year and a half and decades or longer undoing the damage he has wrought on our nation.
+1
I mostly agree, JAS, but as to Obama’s religious bent, he seems to be a Christian, and Christians have a history of things like the Crusades, the burning of witches and unbelievers, and the Thirty Years War. It’s just that Muslims are still doing that sort of thing today.
You guys worry too much about horses that have already left the barn! If Iran wants the bomb they will get the bomb because Pakistan’s, Dr. Kahn, long ago gave everyone that wanted it, the final technological advance they need for weaponization. He did this for money of course. If you really want to worry about someone than let it be the one, or ones, that really will use the bomb against us; Pakistan (or terrorist proxy) or North Korea. Also while pondering the horrors of nuclear explosions let us not forget the only country insane enough to actually use them-the US as in us.
The latest foreign-policy deal with Iran just confirms that the current administration is clueless in these matters. I expect Israel and other countries in that region to work together behind the scenes do restrict and or remove the nuclear capacity of Iran. Additionally, these types of decisions really make you wonder why our troops were over there fighting and dying. What did we gain? What was the goal? As a taxpayer and a voter…just disappointed.
We tried war in Iraq, Afghanistan, drones in numerous countries and Iran just kept adding centrifuges and enriching uranium. Diplomacy can do no worse than what the war mongering has brought us. The American people want to give diplomacy a chance and stop repeating our mistakes of making war in the middle east.
What is so hard to understand when you have a Sunni Muslim (traitor) as President?
Gary,
Drugs ?
If the Congress votes against the deal, then no bill will be presented to the President; therefore, he would not get a chance to veto the “No” vote.
First off I would like to say that I served about ballistic Missile Submarines for six years sleeping with multiple re-entry vehicles aka warheads daily, one of the more interesting segments being the Iran hostage crisis when we were at battle stations missile continuously.
I believe that the deal struck with Iran to be of paramount importance and those that are doing the saber rattling are idiots, the United States must stop it’s quest for full spectrum dominance, it is literally bleeding us dry and is a detriment to the planet at all levels. We have approximately 5500 years of written history and to date how humanity operates has been a dismal failure, there truly needs to be a shift in consciousness or else we’ll, humanity, will just keep marching towards the precipice like the lemmings we have been up till now.
There is a large segment of the demographic that is changing not only in Iran but most of the Middle East, I am not sure how many folks payed attention during the “Arab Spring” but the voices of the millennials and basically all ages were inspiring and eloquent – we, the United States, blew some major opportunities there and now the region has fallen even further into mayhem – the movements have been usurped and popular thought suppressed, to the chagrin of all peoples. Iran represents stability in the region and we must maintain diplomatic relations and a positive relationship at all costs. Personally, I don’t hold out much hope and believe mass extinctions to be just over the horizon – say maybe a 100 years at most, the mathematics are pretty irrefutable. Constant warfare and ill will are self defeating and will only exacerbate the dismal situation. I do not expect the New World Order to change anything significantly and the U.S leadership over the last 70ish years has been abhorrent.
Perhaps the most sensible comment of the day, Rob. how overcrowded will the world be with human vermin in 100 years? Experiments with overcrowding rats, which are genetically much like us, are instructive. They aint pretty!
Population levels being only one factor, the resources to sustain that level being yet another but feedback loops from a myriad of eco-systems are getting crazy, Google Sixth Mass Extinction, Working in natural resources we are seeing some crazy stuff.
I agree with you 100%
I think this issue requires more in-depth analysis before we can reach a conclusion. The new big X-factor: Islamic State.
First, though, let’s see the bigger historic perspective.
Japan, Germany and, more recently, Vietnam’s communist regime also were actively killing Americans. But we defeated the first two in a brutal war, and the latter defeated our South Vietnamese allies in another. Now, they are allies and pro-American.
Iran is different, of course. But it’s actually in two critical differences that the some of the same kinds of patterns can be discerned:
First, our war with Iran has been economic, a far lesser evil. And yet, by strictly deploying eco-weapons, we have achieved a victory in the entire issue that started this particular dispute in the first place – transparency. Most people seem to forget that the nuclear dispute began when UN inspectors were barred from certain Iranian nuclear sites. Now they will be back. This is a win for the international community and for nonproliferation. Iran has caved on this pivotal issue.
Second, Iran and the U.S. have never been at war directly — only in proxy wars. We were on Saddam’s side in his war against Iran. We were inadvertently on Al-Qaeda’s side, and even Islamic State’s side when we confronted Assad in Syria. And we have forever seen Iran-supported Hezbollah as an anti-Israel terrorist organization.
But much of that has now reversed. The idea that Iran is sponsoring the killing of Americans ended when the U.S.-led allies in Iraq realized that, without Iran, it would have been impossible to expel the Islamic State out of Tikrit earlier this year (the birthplace of Saddam). And it was confirmed when U.S. military spokesmen unofficially admitted that, without Iran’s help, expelling Islamic State out of Fallujah and Ramadi, would also be far more difficult.
The pragmatic reality: Without Iran-supported Hezbollah, Islamic State would be holding Damascus; without Iran-trained Shia militias, Islamic State would be in Baghdad. We are now undeclared allies on those battlefields and have an urgent need to make the alliance official, formal and far more effective. It is the only realistic pathway to defeat ISIS and counter the global chaos they create. Despite denials on both sides, the obvious reality is that the nuclear deal with Iran is a key step in that direction.
I would agree with you only if the United States would maintain its military supremacy. In other words, this would only work through “PEACE THROUGH SUPIREOR FIRE POWER”, which Obama has ruined.
A step in the right direction. Go Obama Go!
Your alternative to making a deal with Iran is—what? Do like Bush did and let Iran increase their nuclear development capacity by 20 TIMES while invading Iraq (and upsetting the Middle East balance of power)? Critics think they can play international politics like they own the world, which pisses lots of other people off big time. At least with a treaty agreed on both sides there is a chance for better future relations, a better regime there. Bombing Iran instead is a fools choice that would create far more enmity because it would prove their basic allegation—America is a bully. It could lead to WWIII where NOBODY wins.
Sometimes I wonder if all these hawks are just investors in armaments or funded by arms dealers.
Thanks Steve, right on acessment imho
We just caved and accommodated a strange bedfellow. Negotiate isn’t what we do with a known problematic country. We conceded period.
A deal like this happens when a president is more concerned with his “legacy’ than the long-term strength of the U.S. Is there any doubt that Iran will not live up to the terms of this agreement? And even if sanctions are put in place again (no sure thing), the damage will have been done.
Another example of our muddle-headed Middle East policy!
The Iran nuclear deal is a terrible, and completely gratuitous, mistake. The sanctions regime on Iran was very effective (just as the sanctions on Iraq were more effective than anyone realized). Iran was close to a balance of payments crisis in 2013 and certainly required no war to be stopped in its nuclear and regional ambitions. That’s administration claptrap.
Now, with the sanctions crumbling and an ineffective anti-nuclear regime proposed, a regional arms race is a growing certainty. Furthermore, by next year, Iran will have a free hand in its regional proxy wars — the current conflicts are a prelude to a much large regional conflagration that will probably start in the Persian Gulf. Iran’s ally, Syria, has agreed with ISIS to “mutual non-interference” where the Syrian regime rules a rump state and lets ISIS have a free hand in the rest of what was once Syria. Iran is no ally against ISIS — all these groups and the Iranian regime are jihadist movements (or a regime, in the case of Iran) as well as players in an escalating sectarian conflict between Sunnis and Shi’ites. The US tilt toward Iran since 2011 has contributed significantly to the sectarian turmoil in Iraq and Syria.
Everyone in the region hates the agreement, Iran and Syria excepted, and the US is effectively isolated in the Middle East, without allies, influence, or leverage. This is supposed to be diplomatic triumph? It’s an Obama fantasy, one effective in some quarters only because of the lingering power of his personality cult.
There is so much more to this. Iran’s Mullahs have only one goal; create a Shia’ caliphate that will be strong enough to first de-stabilize Europe and then spread to Asia and finally the Americas. Yes there are many moderates in Iran but they are under the thumb of the Mullahs and the Iranian guard. There will be no Arab spring here. $150 billion dollars will go a long way to support its minions to achieve its goal. Many of you are correct that physical warfare is not the answer but economic warfare is. This may not effect our every day lives today, but the lives of our children and grandchildren and our way of life are now very much in jeopardy. We should remove ourselves completely from Iraq and Syria and let the two wannabe caliphates, Iran and Isis fight among themselves for supremacy.
Nobody actually wins a war. If you have to “claim” victory, who’s really the winner? Not an effective way to settle disputes. In this day & age, we’ll know if Iran is “cheating” & perhaps a coalition will deal with Iran rather than just the USA. Who does Iran think will invade them or blow them off the planet? If it was the USA, it would have happened a long time ago.
S.E – tell that to the Vietnamese. They were clear winners and are prospering. We haven’t won a war since WW2 because we are politically correct and won’t accept collateral damage but our enemies did and we lost. The only strength we have left is economic and it doesn’t seem we have the will to even use that. We don’t even have the common sense to know who our true enemies are even as they chant Death to America. The Barbarians are at the gates and Nero is busy fiddling.
Why should we believe someone who has lied to the American people since he began his run for the presidency. Forget any issues of qualification to run, birth certificate, affordable care act, as well as failure to in force our laws, adhere to the CONSTITUTION , release his school applications or records. Other than these things, it’s easy to see why a don’t trust him.
Why should we believe someone who has lied to the American people since he began his run for the presidency. Forget any issues of qualification to run, birth certificate, affordable care act, as well as failure to in force our laws, adhere to the CONSTITUTION , release his school applications or records. Other than these things, it’s easy to see why we don’t trust him. Other than that, only the “cool-aide” drinkers ( a person who thinks they should be entitled to ‘great’ free stuff ) think, and I use the word ‘think’ loosely, would believe ANYTHING, that he vomits from his mouth.
The only thing anyone can be certain about this Iran deal…is that Iran’s theocrats will chisel and weasel their way around it in every way they can devise. If anyone believes that they have negotiated in good faith…we have some prime waterfront property on Mars available. About the only good thing about it is that the whole thing more or less kicks the problem down the road, so I suspecct our negotiators had this in mind, figuring somewhere further down that road, the Ayatollahs might not be in power by then. It’s a flaky way to play a hand, but you never know. Meanwhile, the best bet is to just tip-toe through these tulips of mutual distrust, and be ready to make a quick draw and fire if that mistrust proves correct. I’m not optimistic…but what’s the alternative? Lastly, here’s a question for you: How is Iran less trustworthy than the Pakistani ISI lunatics who actually have nuclear weapons in hand, given their paranoid perspectives about India (who also has nukes)?. As for the Israelis…they seem to have similar perspectives vis a vis Iran, as ISI has for India.
Well, as far as I’m concerned there isn’t one square inch of the ME that’s worth one drop of American blood, or onw American soldier’s life. If it were up to me, I’d tell them all..here’s one for each of you…go at it…and we’ll come along later and bury…what’s left.
W.R.Taylor
Editor – The Centurion Chronicloe
Wish and wring your hands all you want but a number of independent sources (not just the President) have been reporting that the agreement for sanctions is fraying and will become increasingly ineffective – so what would you do – doubt that you have a valid idea.
Peace through superior fire power.
For many it seems the lessons of history (not leftist revisionist history) are still not learnt. How did Pakistan get nukes? Negotiated under Carter and “limited” to just 3000 centrifuges; Iran got 5000. North Korea negotiated under Clinton; 12 years to their first nuclear test. Now, Obama and the Iran deal. Third time a charm? Wake the hell up!
Incorrect – the Ford Administration followed by the Carter Administration attempted to discourage the Pakistani advances towards attaining nuclear weapons. The centrifuge designs were stolen from the Dutch
Netanyahu said to invade Iraq would upset the balance in the Middle East. He was against it and he was right. He said we must stop Iran from getting past 18 months to
breakout. Obama said Iran is years away form breakout and Iran will stop building
nuclear weapons while the talks are going on. Netanyahu said you are just giving
Iran more time to build bombs. Now the CIA says IRAN is 2 months away from breakout.
Breakout is the time to complete building of the bomb. Netanyahu was right again.
We have been duped during the negotiations and will duped again if we sign.
This is just one more concrete example God has given us that our President Barrack Hussein is EVIL. When it is all said and done, God will ask us why we didn’t see the obvious, and if we did, why didn’t we vote the bum out. We get what we deserve.
Obama is the definition of foreign affairs disaster. we have never been in a more precarious position.
Obama is ISLAMIC.
He is under the protection of the Liberal Media.
Wake up America, before your children are destroyed.
Everyone knows war is always an option. Why are some people so opposed to trying peace?
PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS GONE THE EXTRA MILE FOR PEACE OVER WAR > GIVE IT A TRY AND IF iRAN BREAKS THE DEAL THEN THE ONLY JUSTIFIABLE OPTION IS WAR !
WAR TODATE HAS NOT SOLVED THE PROBLEMS IN THE MIDDLE EAST ONLY MADE THE SITUATION WORSE .SURELY THATS NOUGH REASON TO GIVE THE ONLY OTHER OPTION PEACE A CHANCE !
JOHN
I just returned from two weeks as a tourist in Iran–traveling from north to south to north. Iran, in my opinion, represents a stable power in the unstable Middle East which admittedly wishes to become a regional power. Having a stable government assert its leadership role in that area against extremists might be a good idea. I was surprised how the Iranian people welcomed us as Americans–no vitriol, no harassment. Some asked me to go back and tell my friends that Iranians are not bad people. The gulf between the two nations is immense, but remember we overthrew their elected government in 1953, we supported the Shah, we supported Iraq in the 1980-88 war in which over 1 million Iranians perished. But we also have to balance the risk of their becoming a regional influence with alternatives. Hopefully, we have learned the folly of going to war with those who view the world differently. Iran is a Shia country surrounded by Sunni nations intent on destroying the Shias. The region would be much worse off, in my opinion, without an assertive Iran standing up to the extremists. Iran will continue to have national interests that run contrary to those of the US, but what country doesn’t? It is not beyond comprehension how the US and Iran could find their national interests forming a basis of future cooperation.
Very information. However the Jewish lobby does not want you to be friends with Iran.
Another horrible idea from Barack Hussein Obama’s administration.
Obama sold us out to his muslim allies. It is no secret that he hates this country and destroys it a little bit more each day. His next term should be in a jail cell. God help us……
Jewish lobby at work.
Obama will go down in history as the WORST president the US has ever had. By then Iran will have bombed the Middle East back to the dark ages and their terrorist brethren will be having great fun in the US Homeland with all of the money that the state-sponsored terrorists in Hamas and Hezbollah are receiving from Iran’s oil money
Just when I thought you guys were seeing the world as it really is instead of through the USA media. Israel and SA have misled the USA public for years. Lifting the sanctions will provide lots of benefits to both countries. Stop and think about what lies you are spreading.
I think that Obama is trying to prevent a Religious War, between Muslims and Christians which would be fought on every street in the US and its allies, until better times. Causing tens (perhaps hundreds) of thousands of lives, complete with the disastrous Economic consequences.
No one wants a Nuclear OR Religious War.
Obama is a muslim, hasn’t anyone figured that out by now?
AGAINST.If you look at everything Obama has been doing you will see that he is destroying our countries morals, Christians and economy. In 2016, when he hopefully gets pushed out the door, Obamacare premiums and costs will begin to be seen and felt. This is just a beginning, someone has to pay for all the illegal immigrants, the refugee Muslims from the middle east and the kids given citizenship who are born into these ? families? Already we are dealing with the increased police protection costs and (non) immigration legal costs His answer has been to open the borders and let everyone in who can slip across, pay for the Muslims to get here, pay for their resettlement and deny the Coptic Christians.Obama claims to be Christian and lets his government be run and advised by those of the Muslim faith. He is a Shiite Muslim, like the Iranians, The smoke covers the legalities of giving back to Iran millions. Grade school kids know that you don’t make agreements with people who have continually broken past agreements.