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Money and Markets: Investing Insights

The Most Ruinous Mistakes That Investors Make!

Larry Edelson | Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 7:30 am

Larry Edelson

When I coach investors and traders, I’m often asked what I think are the most common, most ruinous mistakes that investors make. Unfortunately, there are a lot of them.

There are mistakes like risking too much money on a single trade or investment … not using protective stops … not using disciplined money management … trading too often … not doing your homework … taking on too big a position in any market … not diversifying enough … and on and on.

Over time, I will explore each and every one of the above in greater detail, and more, to help you learn how to become a better investor and trader.

But in today’s column, I want to cover what I think is the most dangerous mistake investors make, bar none.

It’s what I call getting caught up in all the “market myths” that are always out there. Or put another way …

It’s having a set of preconceived notions

about what markets can and can’t do.

The fact of the matter is that markets can do whatever they want to do.

Markets are never wrong. Markets are never irrational.

Never assume anything when it comes to the markets.

They are what they are and if you don’t understand a market, it’s not the market’s fault; the fault lies instead with your analysis.

For instance, have you ever heard someone say “a market is defying all logic?”

Or that a market is “disconnected from its underlying fundamentals?”

I’m sure you have. I hear those kinds of phrases all the time on shows on Bloomberg and CNBC.

But the fact of the matter is that …

Markets NEVER defy logic.

And they never defy the fundamentals.

Only people defy logic. Only people can make such statements about fundamental forces as well, because when a market is allegedly defying fundamentals, what it’s really doing is operating on fundamental forces that the analyst or investor simply hasn’t figured out yet.

I fully realize that what I’m talking about here is hard to grasp at first. But if you take the time to think deep and hard about what I’m saying, you will elevate your trading and investing to a whole new level. Markets are never wrong. Only people are.

Especially dangerous for most traders and investors is getting caught up in the various “market myths” that are out there.

For instance, how many times have you heard that rising interest rates are bad for the stock market, and that declining rates are good for stocks?

If you’re like any average investor, you’ve heard that theory literally hundreds, if not thousands, of times. Tune into any media show today, and I’m sure you’ll hear it at least once, if not more.

Most stock brokers, and the majority of analysts and newsletter editors, espouse the same causal relationship between interest rates and stock prices.

But the fact of the matter, the plain truth, is that there is no “standard relationship” between interest rates and stock prices. Period.

Consider the period from March 2000 to October 2002, where the Federal Funds rate declined from 5.85 percent to 1.75 percent, and the Nasdaq plunged 78 percent. Put simply, stocks and interest rates went down together! Exactly the opposite of what most would expect.

Or the period from March 2003 to October 2007, where the Federal Funds rate more than tripled and rose from 1.25 percent to 4.75 percent …

And the Dow exploded higher, launching from 7,992 to 13,930 — a 74 percent gain! Stocks and interest rates went higher together!

The fact is that the relationship between interest rates and stock prices varies considerably depending upon a host of factors, including the value of the dollar, inflation and where the economy is in terms of the economic cycle.

But the bottom line is this: Never assume anything and never, ever get caught in conventional thought about a market or you will most likely lose your shirt.

Let’s consider another myth that rising oil prices are bearish for stocks. That’s a bunch of baloney, too.

The fact is that there have been plenty of times when rising oil prices were bullish for stocks … and where falling oil and energy prices were bearish. Exactly the opposite of what most conventional thought tells you.

Or consider the normal view about a country’s widening trade deficit. The common theory is that a widening trade deficit is bad for stock prices and a narrowing deficit is good.

But history proves that it is entirely wrong, and nothing more than a myth.

Fact: From 1976 to 1998, the U.S. trade deficit ballooned from $6.08 billion to $166.14 billion, and guess what? The Dow Jones Industrials went from 848 to 9,343!

In truth, the relationship between the trade deficit or surplus and stock prices is exactly the opposite of what most pundits claim.

Or consider the myth about corporate earnings that says they have to rise for stock prices to continue higher. But from 1973 to 1975, the combined earnings of the S&P 500 companies rose strongly for six consecutive quarters, yet the S&P 500 Index fell more than 24 percent.

Moreover, according to research conducted by analyst Paul Kedrosky, since 1960, the average annual return on the S&P 500 was greatest when earnings were falling at a clip of 10 percent or more … while the smallest returns on the S&P 500 occurred when earnings were growing at up to 10 percent per annum!

In other words, rising corporate earnings does not guarantee rising stock prices, by any means. Nor do falling corporate earnings guarantee falling stock prices!

There are lots of myths or biases out there about relationships between economic fundamentals and markets, or between markets and other markets.

But the fact of the matter is that almost all of them are exactly that: Myths, and nothing more.

The bottom line: To avoid making the biggest investing and trading blunders …

1. Never assume anything when it comes to the markets …

2. Question everything, and most of all …

3. Think independently!

Right now, gold is trying to bounce a bit. But it won’t get far. It’s headed lower overall. So I hope you took me up on my recommendation to hedge any holdings you have via the inverse ETFs I recommended in my past few columns.

The stock market, meanwhile, is also bouncing. But don’t be deceived: It’s headed lower for a while. So here, too, I strongly recommended hedging any positions you can’t exit, for whatever reason, via the inverse ETFs I recommended in my last column.

Stay tuned and best wishes,

Larry

Larry Edelson

Larry Edelson, one of the world’s foremost experts on gold and precious metals, is the editor of Real Wealth Report and Supercycle Trader.

Larry has called the ups and downs in the gold market time and again. As a result, he is often called upon by the media for his investing views. Larry has been featured on Bloomberg, Reuters and CNBC as well as The New York Times and New York Sun.

{ 23 comments }

Jon Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 10:00 am

For a clown like urself who hasn’t had one bullish index recommendation since 2009 (only index plays have been leveraged shorts) how the %#%+ did u not put out a buy recommendation when we had a 10% pullback. What r u so afraid of? Ur gonna wake up in 2 yrs w the s&p at 2500 and have never given out a buy spy recommendation.. Ur gonna keep trying to short a bull market … What’s wrong w u? When was the last time u outperformed the s&p in one yr? Been at least 5 yrs.
Buy some index and quit posting

Howard Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 4:14 pm

Jon
Love your spelling, say what????

zzzz Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 4:54 pm

That’s right. If you can’t spell correctly, you don’t have anything important worth paying attention to.

jrj90620 Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 11:17 am

You really said that?Come on!

jrj90620 Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 11:18 am

Markets are never wrong. Markets are never irrational.

Howard Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 4:17 pm

Sometimes it’s the people or manipulators who are irrational. We have to try and base investment decisions on this. Love being in cash at the moment.

Heidi Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 4:02 pm

Larry gave a good advise this week – THINK INDEPENDENTLY …no matter what you read .
Good one .

john Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 2:00 pm

Another week and no mention about gold??? Markets are never wrong or irrational, just look at the last couple of days? Markets always get it wrong because we are the market!

were Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 3:07 pm

Have to stick up for Larry on this one. Read his last paragraph.

Howard Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 4:20 pm

john

The second last paragraph is interesting about gold.

Folly Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 6:37 pm

The biggest mistake any investor can make, is to listen to financial advisors.

John Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 9:39 pm

Totally agree

bob Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 12:02 am

Larry teaching people to trade-LOL!

Larry looks like that secondary base in natural gas is breaking down, and you told subscribers no stop loss on it, goes against what you are saying here.

Mark Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 10:45 am

Thats so true. Natural gas breaks down from the high $4’s range when Larry says it’s basing for the next leg up.

Then collapse 20% in one month – then he says it’s building now a “secondary base”

Well I guess next stop is a tertiary base? Come on Larry let’s here it so we can have another good laugh.

Torsten Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 2:25 pm

“But the bottom line is this: Never assume anything and never, ever get caught in conventional thought about a market or you will most likely lose your shirt.”

You mean like your call that gold is going to 950 in January 2014, then being 99.9% sure the bottom is in at 1180?! Then coming out and saying your 100% sure it’s going lower now…?! LMAO!

Johnny Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 3:17 pm

I think he has guts to put is ideas out there. I read different opinions and his is just one angle. In the end each one of us has to make our own decisions. We are the market.

Bob Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 3:54 pm

Oct 23, 2014, 2:50 Central…”Is now the time to pull the trigger in going south on the market, Larry? Or, should we hold our seats while the market blasts higher?

Marek Friday, October 24, 2014 at 9:22 am

Larry makes good points about trading here, although it’s nothing new.

Only problem is he can’t trade worth crap – just join his Gold Silver Trader to find out.

tom nogaro Saturday, October 25, 2014 at 8:04 am

for me, the key question for any advisor: when?

larry, you have said the dow will for sure go up to 31000. by when? and will it go straight up from here; or down to 6000 or lower first, as some say, and then up to 31000 from there?

(not criticizing; just asking.)

RC Saturday, October 25, 2014 at 10:41 am

Marek is right . He can’t trade worth a shit. I was a member of Gold and Silver Trader. The worst service I ever subscribed to. He can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Nothing but stop outs. The service should be called Stopped Out Trader or Make A donation To Weiss Trader. If I would have known ahead of time he used Elliot Wave Theory and not T.A. I would have never signed up for the service. How can you trade and not use technical Analysis. This guy stinks period.

Horst Saturday, October 25, 2014 at 9:43 pm

Larry,
watching and trading the markets can be very depressing. In life everything is about control and only a few have more than others, that said, even their power is not permanent. I trade for fun and to massage my brain…only so many hours left…

Scott Sunday, October 26, 2014 at 10:07 pm

A very interesting article on influences to gold pricing from the Swiss National Bank for those wanting some understanding of drivers other the war/fear mongering basis….http://snbchf.com/gold/fed-destroyed-gold-price-fed-strongest-gold-supporter/

Many other interesting points that people investing in gold should be paying attention to on the SNB site.
Cheers

randy Monday, October 27, 2014 at 8:48 am

i know one of the most ruinous mistakes an investor can make…subscribing to any edelson service.

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